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Ben's avatar

“...are not practical: they are done for their own sake.”

Very much disagree. I study art history, and the great majority of what we call artworks have instrumental value. They communicate with the divine, display power, and express ideas. They enable experiences and understanding that cannot be accessed through other means.

Think about architecture. Clearly a technology, right? Some of the most famous buildings (Hagia Sophia, the Guggenheim Bilbao) were built at the cutting edge of technology. But they also create the same kind of aesthetic experiences that food and music create. And not incidentally: that’s their point. So are they a technology or not?

Song works the same way. We know that ancient song served as a way of structuring lyrics so they could be memorized and repeated. It made possible certain kinds of communication that were not otherwise possible. Isn’t that a technology?

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Thomas del Vasto's avatar

The ultimate issue with tech trees, why none has been completed before, is hinted at here but not really described fully. When it comes down to it, the oldest and most potent technologies we have are social technologies. Jimmy Page could never have learned guitar, let alone written songs without a society to support him.

This concession opens a rabbit hole of massive proportions to tumble down. All of human culture and society - marriage, friendship, trade, war, et cetera are ultimately technologies, even by your definition here. Marriage helps keep young men tamed and prevents revolts. Friendships allow for the overcoming of zero-sum competition and promotes greater flourishing in the long run. Hopefully I don't have to explain trade or war.

Either way, all of these things are instrumentally valuable. If you truly do want to create a 'tech tree' that deserves the name, you'll have to include social technologies as well, as far as I'm concerned.

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